Xunlai Tournament House thread of Information

[Kamara]

After dozens of threads across Q&A and Riverside I figured having this in one central location would be good. So I present to you, the one stop shop for all things Xunlai Tournament House.

I don't claim to be the ultimate font of knowledge on this subject so if you spot any errors, please let me know and I'll fix (comment or send me a PM!). Any questions ask away. Myself or another useful forum goer will do their best to answer your questions!

Anywho. Onwards! (Wall o' text, ahoy!)

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The Xunlai Tournament FAQ and question thread

* What is the Xunlai Tournament House?
* What are the rewards for doing this?
* How do I sign up?
* When is the tournament?
* When can I make my predictions
* What do I have to do before the tournament?
* How do I know what teams to pick?
* How can I watch the tournament?
* How do I know who's won?
* How do I pick up my rewards?
* Okay I have my rewards, now what?


* What is the Xunlai Tournament House?

Prior to May 2008 guilds would compete in tournaments for real-world prizes (computer upgrades, Guild Wars merchandise etc) however this changed in May of 2008 to the Automated Tournaments (ATs). There are daily automated tournaments, but the ones that matter for the Xunlai Tournament House (XTH) are the monthly tournaments (mATs). Not only could the competitors receive rewards from this new system but everyone could sign up and bet on which teams would end up in the top eight, and where they would place.

The Automated Tournaments covers Guild Versus Guild battles (GvG) and Hero Battles (HB or 1v1).

* What are the rewards for doing this?

Depending on how your predictions do, you will be rewarded with Tournament Reward Points which can be redeemed for different looking items for your PvP characters, or can be redeemed for Zaishen Keys which open the Zaishen Chest in the Isle of Nameless on the Battle Isles. Opening the chest adds progress to the Zaishen title track. There is also a market for the Zaishen Keys with each key selling for a decent chunk of change. For some idea of the value of Zaishen Keys simply spend a few moments in the Great Temple of Balthazar with Trade Chat on.

* How do I sign up?

As of May 7th 09 there's a new way to participate in the XTH. Simply go to https://www.guildwars.com/competitiv...se/default.php and log in with your Guild Wars account information.

As well as making votes on the website, you will need to link your account to Tolkano. In your Guild Hall, or in the Isle of Nameless speak to the NPC called Tolkano and select "Register your account" Pick a character from the list, confirm that's the name you wish to use and you're set! If you ever delete this character be sure to set up a different account name.

* When is the tournament?

The Tournament is usually the last weekend of each month. However this is not set in stone. Talking to Tolkano he will tell you when the next tournament is, also when you log into the XTH, it will tell you when the next tournament is. Alternatively, ask in this thread if for some reason you can't do either.

* When can I make my predictions

The XTH usually opens a week or two before the tournament. If the house is not accepting predictions then there will be no option to save your predictions

* What do I have to do before the tournament?

Pick your teams. You can predict GvG teams and also 1v1 battles. Log into the XTH click on the "Vote Now" button. You will then be taken to the line up where you can select teams or players who have qualified. Simply drag the names over to the right hand side. If you want to correct anything, just drag the name back to the left hand side.

There's also a "Random" option at the bottom of the form where it will select teams for you. This will be very hit and miss and will pick any team that's qualified.

Don't forget to save your predictions.

It is also a good idea to save your predictions in a text file or similar. So if anything goes wrong with your rewards, you have something to refer to as your previous selections will be wiped when it is time for the next month's tournament.

* How do I know what teams to pick?

If you want to do the grunt work yourself, then follow the Guild Wars Ladder, watch Observer Mode throughout the month and make informed choices based on how teams/players do in certain situations. Teams/Players that make at least 20 Qualifier Points will be eligible for the mAT.

Many guilds will get more than the required 20 QP to play, this does not necessarily make them a better choice for a high finish, it simply means they played a lot of GvG. It is quite common for teams to get their last QP the day of the tournament and then go on to place in the final eight.

If you want the quick and easy way then keep an eye on the forums. In the Gladiator's Arena forum there is usually a thread made where people can discuss the teams in the upcoming mAT. Some users are kind enough to share a top 8 list.

There is also a player created tool found on Guild Wars Guru in the Community Works section that is a small utility that checks how guilds/hvhers have done in tournament in past, projects their expected performance and votes in the Xunlai house for you. - Xunlai Tournament Voting Tool Aid

* How can I watch the tournament?

When the GvG tournament begins on the Saturday (shortly after 4PM GMT/UTC)/ 8AM PST talk to Tolkano in your Guild Hall / Great Temple of Balthazar, select "View Tournaments", select "GvG Monthly Championship" and click on "View".

To the right of the screen is a little button (not the drop down menu). Click on that and select "Sort by Pairing" this will allow you to see what teams are set to fight each other, and when the match ends it will tell you who won.

When a match ends it will appear on Observer Mode shortly after (default key B, or find it in the Menu menu). You can then watch the match if you want.

Once each team in the round has played a game it will move onto the next round.

The Tournament is far from quick, and usually goes on for about 6 hours as it has to cover Playoffs, Elimination Rounds, Quarter finals, Semi finals and the final.

* How do I know who's won?

After the matches have ended, talk to Tolkano, view tournaments, select the monthly and he will give you a list of "Final Standings" which lists where all the teams finished. The Tolkano in your Guild Hall doesn't have 1v1 information, you will need to go to Great Temple of Balth for this info.

* How do I pick up my rewards?

The rewards come into game via a build. Sometimes this is on the first Thursday of each month, sometimes the second. Keep an eye on the update notes or the forums to see if they got added with the latest build.

To see how many Tournament Reward Points (TRP) you were awarded, you first need to talk to a Xunlai Tournament Agent called Kun Shao situated in the port towns or in the Great Temple of Balthazar.

When a town is created for the first time, it will take about 10 to 15 minutes until Kun Shao will talk to you properly. This is normal. He will tell you to come back after X minutes. Just wait about in town, go make a cup of tea, play with the dog, talk to guildies until this time passes. After a new build every single town is a new town, so do be patient.

Once this time is up, talk to the Agent and he will tell you how many points you have. To turn these into actual rewards you need to go back to Tolkano (Guild Hall or GToB) and select "Purchase Rewards" if you want to buy PvP gear or "Buy a Zaishen Key with Tournament Reward Points". Most people will pick the second option.

It is a good idea to collect your TRP on the character that you registered with Tolkano to minimise any problems.

You now have your rewards. Enjoy!

* Okay I have my rewards, now what?

You should now have a bunch of Zaishen Keys in your inventory. These can be used in two ways:
1) Used on the Zaishen Chest in the Isle of Nameless. Look for the exit to the Isle of Nameless, once inside go up the stairs in front of you, swing a left and then swing another left up some more stairs. 1 key = 1 use of the chest. Look at the useful links section at the bottom to see what you would get from the Z-Chest.
2) Sell them. This is where the average player will make their money. Keys sell for around the 4-5k mark. They usually don't go above 5 unless you're selling them in a really huge pile via an auction or something. Selling of Z-Keys usually happens in Great Temple of Balthazar American Districts (though you can probably sell them in any dist there).


FAQ and general things not covered above

* I didn't get my rewards
* I got less points than I thought I would
* I got more points than I thought I would
* I'm trying to predict but there's no save button
* I'm about to make my predictions and it says the close date is September, huh?



* I didn't get my rewards

First things first. Don't panic. There can be a number of factors why you were unable to pick up your rewards. Some can be fixed by you, some need ANet intervention.

You will get 5 TRP simply for playing even if you got absolutely no matches on the predictions. So if you didn't get the 5 then something went wrong.

-- The first thing you can do is wait. Wait a few hours, wait overnight, then talk to Kun Shao again. There can simply just be a time delay.
-- Ensure you're picking up the reward points on the character you're registered with. This is not always necessary, but it helps.
-- You may also wish to try a PvP character to pick them up. This has worked for people but may just be pure coincidence. Either way, it's an option to rule out when figuring out what went wrong.
-- Try other characters. There's been reports of people trying other characters and then getting the rewards
-- You may also want to try picking them up in a different place (LA/Kamadan/Kaineng/GtoB) as some people have reported that this works for them

There may have been something wrong with your account and the system was unable to find it. Go to the XTH Website and double, triple check your details, in particular the account name.

Make sure you talk to Kun Shao and then to Tolkano. I've seen people go up to Tolkano right away and cry they got no points. Doing things correctly usually helps the process

If none of these steps work, then it's probably time to go contact the Support people via the GW website.

* I got less points than I thought I would

If you're certain you should have got more points then get in touch with Support via the website and include useful information like your account name, character name signed up for the XTH and the predictions you chose. Just do *not* give your XTH password or your account password. Nobody but you *ever* needs to see those. Ever.


* I got more points than I thought I would

Shhh. Bank error in your favour. (Or it's possible you just calculated wrong. It's usually the latter)

* I'm trying to predict but there's no save button

If there's no save button then that's because it's too early to make your predictions! As mentioned, some teams / players don't qualify for a few days before hand, so ideally you'd be coming back a few days before anyway. Try again in a few days or later in the week.

* I'm about to make my predictions and it says the close date is September, huh?

For some reason, before the XTH is ready for predictions from you, it says the date of the next Monthly is September. We don't know why it does this, it just does. All it means that it's not yet ready for you to predict. Try again about half way through the month and it should be updated.


Remember. At the end of the day it's all a bit of fun. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Enjoy the tournaments. Learn more about PvP. Get involved in PvP if you want. Who knows, maybe we'll see your own guild in a mAT a few months down the line!

Useful links:

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive/ladder/default.php - The Official Ladder
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Xunlai_Tournament_House - Official Wiki Page about the XTH
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tolkano - Tolkano, who he is, where to find him.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Kun_Shao - Xunlai Tournament Agent, who he is and where to find him.
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...08/default.php - Details of the Tournament in general, including breakdowns of the results + skill usage
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ds/default.php - Rewards for the tournament + details about Zaishen Rank
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ishencalendar/ - The Zaishen Reward Calendar.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaishen_Chest - The Zaishen Chest. What you get out of it.

[Jensy]

Lovely guide, but you knew that <3

Good job.

[Earth]

Great guide

Stickied for eternal fame.

[Rayaholic]

Good job, nice guide

[Icy The Mage]

" I'm about to make my predictions and it says the close date is September, huh? "

Glad you answered that, soooo many people ask that question and it seems to get out of hand. I'll definitely be referring my best friend to this guide, but looks like the price of Zaishen Keys are going down! Yay less expensive title ^^

[Jensy]

Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive

" I'm about to make my predictions and it says the close date is September, huh? "

Glad you answered that, soooo many people ask that question and it seems to get out of hand. I'll definitely be referring my best friend to this guide, but looks like the price of Zaishen Keys are going down! Yay less expensive title ^^

I think last month's update pumped out so many keys (what, with people getting them 2 and 3 times...), that the demand was far less than the supply.

We'll see after tomorrow (or next week) when people are hit with the key debt *g* (see here: http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4481606 ).

[Kumu Honua]

I have something that I can add to this!

* I didn't get my rewards

Sometimes if you talk to Kun Shao you will not receive points, but if you log into a different character on the same account and have that character talk to him, he will give you the rewards.

[distilledwill]

legend, about time someone set some of these up. Just to add to the above amendment to

*I didn't get my rewards!

Lots of people found that last month trying to claim their rewards in GtoB wasnt working so they went to Kamadan, Lions Arch or Kaineng and it worked fine there.

[furanshisuko]

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

I have something that I can add to this!

* I didn't get my rewards

Sometimes if you talk to Kun Shao you will not receive points, but if you log into a different character on the same account and have that character talk to him, he will give you the rewards.

i have a similar question, ive been voting on the XHT and i have my account registered whit a characters name that was deleted, do i still get rewards or not?

thnx

[Konig Des Todes]

Originally Posted by furanshisuko

i have a similar question, ive been voting on the XHT and i have my account registered whit a characters name that was deleted, do i still get rewards or not?

thnx

The name is your account's name. Even if you delete and recreate the character a million times it stays the same and you can get your rewards as it is by account not character.

Also, about time this came around, was gonna toss another PM in GWO.

[DarkFlame]

Originally Posted by furanshisuko

i have my account registered whit a characters name that was deleted, do i still get rewards or not?

You mean in-game with Tolkano, right? Then yes. The name is registered with your account and not the individual character. Tolkano will also allow you to change that name if you so desire, but only once every 30 days.

Also, good job with the guide Kamara.

[Striker Banana]

Great guide, ty : D

[Jinxinleon]

Ok well,I made my picks for 1v1 (wasn't here when I could do GvG).
And I never got the TRP or the normal points,and I didn't get double points last month.
So,whats going on?

[Petra Arkanian]

Great guide Thank you

I did not get my rewards this month, Kun Shao says that I did not make picks or have not registered ( well of course I did and I have).

But I did change the email addy on my GW account although not the xunlai account (I dont even know if you can on the xunlai account). Has anyone else done this? and did you have problems (or not) collecting keys?

[Arrowz321]

Great Guide!! Helped me out.

[LicensedLuny]

I've just finished working with Support to restore my XTH access (long forgotten details after getting those Wintergreen items a couple years ago.)

Once everything was working I replied with thanks for the help and promised to not freak out if my rewards didn't appear right away, as I'd read about the issues others have had. The GM was kind enough to reply with some tips on collecting the rewards.

I'm so glad to hear that everything worked out. Since you mentioned reading the forums and not getting rewards immediately, I wanted to mention a couple of things:

• One of the most common mistakes is thinking points are released right after a tournament is over. It usually takes a couple of weeks (after the close of the tournament) for the points distribution.
• If you don’t see a “Save Predictions” button on the site, don’t worry. That just means predictions for the current month have not begun yet.
• If you don’t receive your points on the designated character after distribution, please try logging in with your other characters and speak to Kun Shao. There is a small glitch that we’re aware of, and often points can be retrieved by other characters on the account.

I wasn’t sure if the forums covered those areas, so I thought I would mention it. Please, if you do run in to problems, don’t hesitate to contact me.

All of the above are mentioned in the sticky (Very helpful guide by the way!) but I thought it might be useful to know these are coming from a GM rather than anecdotal evidence, especially that last point about switching characters.

As a side note, they couldn't have been more helpful! Within 30 min. of submitting my request for help resetting the XTH login details, one GM replied to let me know the issue would be elevated to senior staff. 12 hours later, a senior GM let me know what information they needed. All in all, I got my access back within 48 hours of asking for help. A lot of folks post on Guru with horror stories about dealing with NCSoft Support, but for me they were 100% helpful, polite and fast.

Cheers,
Luny

[Archress Shayleigh]

Very nice guide... ^^ gj

[DarkFlame]

Parts of the first post need to be amended, thanks to the new XTH.

Xunlai Tournament House 2.0

* The Xunlai Tournament House has received a variety of exciting improvements!
o Players will now log in to the Xunlai Tournament House with their Guild Wars username and password.
o The interface and functionality of the Xunlai Tournament House has been greatly improved. To read about the changes, see this article.

[Kamara]

Have updated this with the new info. If you see any errors (it is stupid AM here @_@) please let me know. Leave a comment or send a PM and I'll fix ASAP

[Eragon Zarroc]

include info on the new random selection button ;-)